Post 83445 by ollsen deleted for the following reason: this is a chatfilter question where it seems you are asking "what do you guys think about this?" It might be good for big big question, or maybe it needs to be reworked so there's something you're getting at not just "hey here's a big contentious topic, let's talk about it here" You might also want to try MetaChat which is a bit more chatty or just figure out what the problem is you're getting at here. -- jessamyn